Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Ana bib number i forget

Gregory Dwyre
Pledged
Annotated Bibliography

Vogler, Christopher, and Michele Montez. The Writer's Journey : Mythic Structure for Writers. Boston: Michael Wiese Productions, 2007. 143-173


There are two parts in this section that Volger talks about. The approach to the inner most cave and ordeal. He had some really nice examples for both which I will go into. When talking about the approach to the inner most cave I liked how he first described it as the heart of the new world. He goes on to describe the reasons for the approach which could be to get in one more laugh or time to get ready for big bang. There are different types of approaches depending on what type of hero you have created. Sometimes the hero might be direct and knock on the doors of cave while others are sneaker about it. Then he goes on to talk about the threshold guardian which we have already heard about. Once the hero has finished entering the cave there is no exit .
The next part was about the ordeal which he describes as “facing the greatest challenge and most fearsome opponent yet.” He talks al lot about how the hero has to go through a death and rebirth at this part and how the audience loves the taste and escape from death


The part I found very interesting is when Volger was talking about how once the hero is gone or temporarily gone we start to panic and “jump from character to character trying to find out who we want to spend the rest of the story following. Usually the hero comes back/is reborn but in the case of psycho this isn’t the case and we follow another character who seems very flawed.


Questions

How many inner most caves can you have?
Does the inner most cave always lead to the ordeal or can you have the ordeal with out the inner most cave.
Why do you think we like death and rebirth so much, and not just death on its own?

Can the ordeal be internal or does it need to be external so that the audience can relate better?

3 comments:

Aleena O. said...

I think we can have an ordeal without an inner most cave. We sometimes use batman as an example in class, so I'll use that...I really don't think in the Dark Knight that there is an inner most cave, but there is plenty of tests and an ordeal that batman has to face.

Roxanne said...

I think we like the idea of death with rebirth so much more than jsut death because death seems like such an ending to people, an unknown territory. Without rebirth, we don't know at all if what is coming will be positive, negative, or neutral. With knowing there is rebirth, if death is a negative there is always something more to anticipate.

kate said...

I think we as human beings have always been fascinated with this idea of rebirth after death because it gives us hope. We want to believe there is more to death and that's it's not just the end. The idea of being reborn in a sense makes us feel more immortal.